sparrowdown, "Maybe they will have a singing contribution box next?"
LOL!
somebody on another thread suggested that those still in could express their opinions on steven lett's performance.
i am still in and i was shocked, dismayed and saddened by it.
i became a witness over 30 yrs ago and the issue of donations was a non-issue for so many years.. now, it is a huge one for the org.
sparrowdown, "Maybe they will have a singing contribution box next?"
LOL!
i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.
really?
and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..
Made a mistake. Please ignore.
couple of weeks ago an elder took a young man aside and crawled all over him after the tms for wearing a "skinny" tie.
it was one of those 2 inch wide ties.
nothing bright or scandalous about.
my father passed away this week.
we are going to have a funeral for him.
he was not a witness for many years but a lot of his family is still associated.
dogon, "What to say to JWs at a funeral."
See you in heaven.
ok bible scholars, do i have this right?.
jehoopla promised the israelites lots of great stuff in the promised land, but they didn't believe him so they sent spies to check it out.
they came back with fruit so large it had to be carried on a branch by 2 men.. from this, dubs believe they are going to have strawberries the size of king king's skull when they get to their own promised land (the new system).
Giant Canaanites need giant food.
jeroboam built high places for calve worship, created his own priests, created his own sacred day of worship, and was just all around a bad man.
1 kings chapter 12.
man of god did not engage in false worship, did not have tons of money, did not have a harem of beautiful women, and did not have the power of a kingdom.
God, Moses and some firewood:
32 While the Israelites were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.” 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the Lord commanded Moses. Numbers 15:32-36 New International Version
couple of weeks ago an elder took a young man aside and crawled all over him after the tms for wearing a "skinny" tie.
it was one of those 2 inch wide ties.
nothing bright or scandalous about.
I was counseled for forgetting my tie when I gave a talk at the theocratic ministry school.
i reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
prologos
IMHO if you daily look at the grand spectacle of existence, AND the more you know about how it all works, the work involved, the more you could at least put a "possible" in the concept of a deist originating worker.
But Perry believes that Deists are going to hell. It isn't so much creationism as it is his brand of it which is that of Christian Fundamentalists.
i reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
redvip2000,
"Isn't it great how history continuously repeats itself? Here we are in 2015, and we are still attributing to magic what we can't yet explain with science."
Here in the United States we are only two election cycles away from rank superstition.
hey so i'm new on here.
just wanted to introduce myself.
in my 20's and was rasied one, and very popular among the jw community.
Tony Stark,
"I still go to meetings so that i am reinstated and can feel normal again, but my beliefs are different now as i've done a lot of research."
I suggest that you don't go back just for the loneliness especially if your beliefs have changed. You'll be living a double life and the friends you make there will not be sincere.
You're young and you have the social skills to make real friends outside of that pathetic religion.